{"id":1734,"date":"2017-04-23T22:09:48","date_gmt":"2017-04-24T03:09:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=1734"},"modified":"2017-04-23T22:09:48","modified_gmt":"2017-04-24T03:09:48","slug":"you-should-care-about-this-thing-i-dont","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=1734","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;You should care about this thing I don&#8217;t.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The politics of the last year have clarified a lot of things for a lot of people. For me, it&#8217;s the futility of the argument that comes of the form &#8220;you should care about this thing I don&#8217;t. I can see why it feels like a winner. It looks like a slam-dunk! By my values, this person or thing is bad for x reasons&#8211;and by <em>your<\/em> values, this person or thing is bad for y reasons&#8211;and therefore even though we do not agree, we should both oppose this person or thing! Yay! Logic prevails and everyone emerges better off!<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s where this goes wrong: 1) Making an argument that something you don&#8217;t care about should be important to someone else is hardly ever convincing. Quite often you don&#8217;t understand the nuances of what it is they care about fully since <em>it&#8217;s not your thing<\/em>. Even when you do, it&#8217;s hard to put your back into the argument since <em>it&#8217;s not your thing<\/em>. &#8220;But you said!&#8221; does not sound sharp and politically savvy, it sounds like you are 6 years old and trying to get another 10 minutes before bedtime. &#8220;But you said you believed in family values, <em>you said!&#8221;<\/em> Even if they did say. Being technically correct that they did say <em>does not change the other person&#8217;s position<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>2) Let&#8217;s say you win! &#8220;You&#8217;re right!&#8221; says the other person. &#8220;I <em>will<\/em> bump this thing you don&#8217;t value up my priority queue for decision-making in future!&#8221; Oh&#8230;good&#8230;now you&#8217;ve reinforced that people should not be allowed to flee abusive marriages, or that we should all spend a lot of time angry about what color the president&#8217;s suit is, or any of a number of other things that <em>you don&#8217;t believe<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen people do this across the political spectrum, and it basically never works. When people say &#8220;find common ground,&#8221; this is not actually what they mean. They mean the points where you can honestly mean it when you say, &#8220;I think we can agree that this is important. I think this deserves your attention.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When I was taking my first high school debate class, my debate coach (who was otherwise great) got really excited about gotcha questions, &#8220;when did you stop beating your wife&#8221; questions. He acted like they would be a key skill. But gotcha questions in debates were pretty rare, and they were only as good as your opponent&#8217;s willingness to run with them, which was usually pretty minimal. In real life they&#8217;re even less useful, because literally nothing forces any human brain&#8211;including mine, including yours&#8211;to be internally consistent. I suspect that this is what we find so appealing about the stories where robots and computers can be done in with a logical paradox: it&#8217;s because <em>we can&#8217;t.<\/em> Finding a gotcha where your sibling, your next-door neighbor, your co-worker has said they believe in one thing politically and then are supporting someone who does another thing&#8211;or are even doing another thing themselves&#8211;does not force them to say, &#8220;You&#8217;re right, I will change my position on one of these two things.&#8221; Let&#8217;s find things we really do value in common&#8211;or find ways to maneuver around the people who don&#8217;t. Because &#8220;you ought to react this way&#8221; has never once gotten a person to react in the specified way.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The politics of the last year have clarified a lot of things for a lot of people. For me, it&#8217;s the futility of the argument that comes of the form &#8220;you should care about this thing I don&#8217;t. I can see why it feels like a winner. It looks like a slam-dunk! By my values, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[40],"class_list":["post-1734","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-the-art-of-the-possible"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1734","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1734"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1734\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1735,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1734\/revisions\/1735"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1734"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1734"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1734"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}