{"id":555,"date":"2014-08-19T17:37:36","date_gmt":"2014-08-19T22:37:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=555"},"modified":"2014-08-19T17:37:36","modified_gmt":"2014-08-19T22:37:36","slug":"adjective-order-and-speculative-writing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=555","title":{"rendered":"Adjective order and speculative writing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/articles\/arts\/the_good_word\/2014\/08\/the_study_of_adjective_order_and_gsssacpm.single.html\">this article<\/a> about adjective order in English very interesting.  It&#8217;s a topic that we mostly grasp intuitively&#8211;no teacher ever told me that saying &#8220;iron big skillet&#8221; was wrong because material is the type of adjective that belongs closest to the word and size goes further out, so we would say &#8220;big iron skillet.&#8221;  But we would.  I would never say or write &#8220;iron big skillet&#8221; unless I had realized after I&#8217;d already started to say &#8220;iron skillet&#8221; that there were two of them in there&#8211;and even then mostly I&#8217;d say &#8220;iron skillet&#8211;the big one&#8221; rather than &#8220;iron big skillet.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(I wonder whether this gets taught in English as a Second Language classes or whether we just leave ESL learners to flounder and tell them that they sound &#8220;funny&#8221; and &#8220;foreign&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221; because most of their <em>teachers<\/em> can&#8217;t articulate why they do, they just do.)<\/p>\n<p>But the thing that occurred to me reading the article was that I use this to signal things like fictional species name when I&#8217;m writing speculative fiction.  The example they used of &#8220;wondrous blue-green Hawaiian gecko&#8221; vs. &#8220;Hawaiian blue-green wondrous gecko&#8221;: in the latter case, I would incline towards &#8220;wondrous gecko&#8221; being the species name, and if I saw it later in the text as &#8220;Caroline advanced toward the wondrous gecko enclosure with the stun gun at ready,&#8221; I would take that as further data, not that the enclosure was wondrous, but that the species was called &#8220;wondrous gecko.&#8221;  Because otherwise it&#8217;s an awkwardness I would assume that a) someone fluent enough to write in English would catch and b) someone fluent enough to edit in English would catch so that c) <em>it would be there for a reason<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if people who primarily read memetic fiction have that reading protocol, or if I&#8217;m giving other speculative writers (or speculative readers!) too much credit, but it was a tool in my toolkit I was not conscious of using until there was the adjective order laid out right there, so look: adjective order, it is a thing!  If you mess with it, you can sometimes signal things like species name in a speculative context.  This has been your afternoon&#8217;s SF science nerding with Mris.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found this article about adjective order in English very interesting. It&#8217;s a topic that we mostly grasp intuitively&#8211;no teacher ever told me that saying &#8220;iron big skillet&#8221; was wrong because material is the type of adjective that belongs closest to the word and size goes further out, so we would say &#8220;big iron skillet.&#8221; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[13,35],"class_list":["post-555","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-full-of-theories","tag-you-can-take-the-girl-out-of-the-lab"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/555","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=555"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/555\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":556,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/555\/revisions\/556"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=555"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=555"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=555"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}