{"id":671,"date":"2014-12-24T07:32:55","date_gmt":"2014-12-24T12:32:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=671"},"modified":"2014-12-24T07:32:55","modified_gmt":"2014-12-24T12:32:55","slug":"the-just-city-by-jo-walton","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marissalingen.com\/blog\/?p=671","title":{"rendered":"The Just City, by Jo Walton"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Review copy provided by Tor. Also the author is a dear friend of mine, and I read this book in manuscript before I read this published version.<\/p>\n<p>This is a book about time travel, robots, and eccentric philosophers using ancient slave children to experiment with approximating Plato&#8217;s <em>Republic<\/em>, with the help of the goddess Athene.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also a book about consent. Once you bring Platonism in this far to the front-and-center, theme is not going to be an optional extra that can sort of sneak up on you, and <em>The Just City<\/em> is not an exception to that rule. Consent&#8211;not just in a sexual context, also in a work and personal context&#8211;goes from first page to last. If you don&#8217;t want a book that&#8217;s dealing with consent (and with historical figures and Greek gods not always having a great grasp of it), then this is not the book for you.<\/p>\n<p>I think substantially because I never had a Mediterranean focus, I never had the, &#8220;I want to live there!&#8221; or &#8220;I want to try that!&#8221; reaction to Plato&#8217;s <em>Republic<\/em>&#8211;which makes it more fun to watch it twist and disintegrate than if I was a hard-core Platonist, I think? There may be hard-core Platonists about who can give me the report on the experience from their perspective. But mostly I got to enjoy Simmea and Maia striving so hard for this strange thing that kept shifting under them, and what I do like that it was like is the kind of utopian commune experiment that 19th-century America was chock full of. Um. What I do like to read about. Because I would not live on one for love nor money. Really: no. Really really: no.<\/p>\n<p>One of my consistent complaints about fantastic fiction is that it&#8217;s hard to find books that treat the Greek gods as genuinely not very nice. This is a definite exception. The Greek gods in <em>The Just City<\/em> are not horrible brutes, but they are definitely not your pals&#8211;they take some of the worst aspects of being human and being alien, without becoming nuance-free monsters. I also enjoyed how thoroughly Socrates was rolling his eyes at people&#8217;s reactions to Plato. Also just structurally, the last sentences of the chapters are so very well done. But my favorite thing is probably the robots, actually. I like the robots quite a lot, and all the stuff around them, most of which is spoilery. More robots. Robots yay.<\/p>\n<p>Please consider using our link to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0765332663\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0765332663&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=novegazi-20&amp;linkId=VDNEUKO3RZ6OW6YR\">buy\u00a0<em>The Just City<\/em> at Amazon.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Review copy provided by Tor. Also the author is a dear friend of mine, and I read this book in manuscript before I read this published version. This is a book about time travel, robots, and eccentric philosophers using ancient slave children to experiment with approximating Plato&#8217;s Republic, with the help of the goddess Athene. 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